Yasmapaz
Jul 19 2008, 8:17 pm
Alo! My sister is coming to Germany from USA. There is a tipic food that is only made in my city. They sold them raw to prepare at home. I was wondering if is possible to bring it with her in the bag. The thing is that is a cold product not in a sealed package but in a carton box., is allow to pass raw cold food to Germany? Is made of rice >.< So we think of pack it with dry ice in one of the checked bags. No in the carry ons.
Thanks for your help!
Kuzzer
Jul 21 2008, 2:53 pm
C'mon, @Yasmapaz- I'm intrigued as to what this raw rice-based comestible might be . . . can you give us any more clues?
And as for packing in dry ice - BAD idea, B-A-D idea - just what do you think the TSA will make of a suitcase that's leaking frigid smoky fumes?! Did you by any chance mean Ice Packs?
K
wren
Jul 21 2008, 3:38 pm
That's not going to work, at all. The mere scent of an apple that my husband insisted on bringing as a snack, but had eaten about 3 hrs before landing, was enough to set the beagle off. We had to have our bags completely searched by customs.
mere
Jul 21 2008, 4:05 pm
i've traveled with cheese, beer, root beer, dog food, and dog treats and have had no problem (some in luggage some in carry on). plus other food stuff (dried food mixes etc).
kitty_kat
Jul 22 2008, 8:49 am
Dried food being the important point from the above.
Raw foods are suspect.
Of course you could always just call the airline you plan on flying on and just ask.
Showem
Jul 22 2008, 8:58 am
The airline can't help you, you have to try customs. Here is the
German Customs webpage, in English. Take a look and see if the answer is there. If not, send them an email. It will depend on the ingredients of this mysterious raw dish.
AnswerToLife42
Jul 22 2008, 9:02 am
QUOTE (wren @ Jul 21 2008, 4:38 pm)

That's not going to work, at all. The mere scent of an apple that my husband insisted on bringing as a snack, but had eaten about 3 hrs before landing, was enough to set the beagle off. We had to have our bags completely searched by customs.
I have never seen beagles at German airports. You mean bagles?
I only saw beagles at American airports.
Kuzzer
Jul 22 2008, 9:05 am
Hello Mods - why did my last comment get deleted? It wasn't exactly rude or defamatory? Pretty harmless, actually.
Betty Tyranny
Jul 22 2008, 9:06 am
QUOTE (Showem @ Jul 22 2008, 9:58 am)

The airline can't help you, you have to try customs. Here is the
German Customs webpage, in English. Take a look and see if the answer is there. If not, send them an email. It will depend on the ingredients of this mysterious raw dish.
I don't know if I'd trust the Zoll site (even though it should be the authority). It's the reason why I didn't have my friend bring over a bunch of stuff from the states. Later I was told it would've been no problem.
According to Zoll:
QUOTE
Foodstuff
is for consumption. In the Law on Foodstuff and Necessaries food is defined as "stuff intended to be consumed by man in unchanged, prepared or worked condition".
There is a distinction between
* foodstuff of animal origin
e.g. meat, milk, eggs, honey and
* foodstuff of plant origin
e.g. potatoes, mushrooms, wine and vine leaves.
Which pretty much includes everything. By this definition, a candy bar is verboten.
Showem
Jul 22 2008, 9:13 am
Well it was helpful to someone when I gave the advice
4 years ago.
Bell the cat
Jul 22 2008, 9:16 am
I flew with frozen Hallibut and Samphire wrapped in freezer cloth from Edinburgh to Munich recently - it was for a dinner party.
Betty Tyranny
Jul 22 2008, 9:20 am
QUOTE (Showem @ Jul 22 2008, 10:13 am)

Well it was helpful to someone when I gave the advice
4 years ago.
Sorry, I forgot. The new people around here aren't equipped to give advice.
wren
Jul 22 2008, 9:38 am
QUOTE
I have never seen beagles at German airports. You mean bagles? I only saw beagles at American airports.
Yeah, I think it must have been an American airport. We've had an unfortunate series of airport mishaps over the last few years so some of the specifics of individual events are slightly jumbled. It's been fun!
Allershausen
Jul 22 2008, 9:46 am
QUOTE (Bell the cat @ Jul 22 2008, 10:16 am)

I flew with frozen Hallibut and Samphire wrapped in freezer cloth from Edinburgh to Munich recently - it was for a dinner party.
But Edinburgh is in the UK, which is in the EU, which means you can transport foodstuffs from one country without any restrictions, normally anyway, unless some new disease has broken out in Britain again. Bringing food from the States is a whole other kettle of fish!
RainyDays
Jul 22 2008, 10:29 am
Another extract from the
Customs hp, where restrictions on importing "fish, molluscs and crustaceans" and meat and dairy products from non-EU countries are explained:
QUOTE
If meat, milk and products manufactured from them (such as cheese or sausage, including canned goods) are imported privately, these products must meet the same veterinary requirements as commercially imported consignments. This means that travellers who are carrying such goods are only allowed to enter Germany at certain entry points where a veterinary inspector is on hand. In addition, the products must be accompanied by official health certificates from the country of origin.
...
Foodstuffs that contain milk or cream in small quantities (e.g. cream toffees, chocolate or biscuits) are not affected by the new regulations.
...
It is very important to bear in mind that all goods that are subject to prohibitions and restrictions must always be declared at the frontier customs office when imported into the EC (and always when exported). The submission of a proper customs declaration is even necessary if the value is within the tax- and duty-free allowances.
eurovol
Jul 22 2008, 10:40 am
Removed post:
QUOTE
Bringing home made food by plane from the U.S. -- Junk
21.Jul.2008 The beagles are going to love you!
NOT JUNK! You just have no a clue about US airports and the beagle squads. Last time I was in DC the beagles were out in force. Most are patrolling the incoming traffic, but I have seen them wondering the departure areas and I can guarantee you that they are sniffing bags coming and going. Next time you are in a US airport and see a beagle, keep an eye on it cause it will find someone and usually fairly quickly.
leky
Jul 22 2008, 11:41 am
Ah yep, it was them bloody beagles at SFO that caused me to throw away 2 packets of sausage rolls, well and the fact that there were signs everywhere saying no meat products, I was tempted to ignore them but when I saw the dogs waiting decided it was a bad idea, terribly distressing it was.
Showem
Jul 22 2008, 1:05 pm
QUOTE (Betty Tyranny @ Jul 22 2008, 9:20 am)

Sorry, I forgot. The new people around here aren't equipped to give advice.
The new people who actually give advice and don't just say what they think might happen based on an experience where they didn't contact customs, are equipped.
Leave your chips in the bag, not on your shoulder. My example was to show that Customs and have been helpful and useful in the past to someone who contacted them.
Expaticus
Jul 22 2008, 1:22 pm
QUOTE (leky @ Jul 22 2008, 12:41 pm)

Ah yep, it was them bloody beagles at SFO that caused me to throw away 2 packets of sausage rolls, well and the fact that there were signs everywhere saying no meat products, I was tempted to ignore them but when I saw the dogs waiting decided it was a bad idea, terribly distressing it was.
I've gone hunting and fishing in the UK and have returned to Germany the same day with (dressed) game in checked luggage. I'm under the impression it's no different than doing so on the Eurostar ... or everyone would have to surrender his
Wurst at the border.
I'd never consider taking my chances with those adorable beagles (with the cute little uniform jackets) any more than trying to bring in cuban cigars ... just not worth the hassle. Since the
medfly, they're even tougher than the UK is on mad cow and/or rabies pet quarantine.
P.S. German friends in the US have a mother-in-law who's sucessfully shipped in a massive vacuum-packed
Wurst disguised in an Advent wreath for years without incident!
cuiry
Jul 22 2008, 1:27 pm
Every time I go to Germany (leaving from Atlanta), I always bring steaks.
They are frozen, then placed in a cooler bag with those frozen gel packs and packed away in my checked luggage.
Only once was the bag checked and that was by the US. The bag was opened and a card placed in it as well as plenty of tape wrapped around the outside.
German customs has never gotten hold of my T-bones!
leky
Jul 22 2008, 1:39 pm
QUOTE (Expaticus @ Jul 22 2008, 2:22 pm)

I've gone hunting and fishing in the UK and have returned to Germany the same day with (dressed) game in checked luggage. I'm under the impression it's no different than doing so on the Eurostar ... or everyone would have to surrender his
Wurst at the border.
I'd never consider taking my chances with those adorable beagles (with the cute little uniform jackets) any more than trying to bring in cuban cigars ... just not worth the hassle. Since the
medfly, they're even tougher than the UK is on mad cow and/or rabies pet quarantine.
P.S. German friends in the US have a mother-in-law who's sucessfully shipped in a massive vacuum-packed
Wurst disguised in an Advent wreath for years without incident!
I always bring sausage rolls, cheese, bacon etc back to Germany...but taking them in to San Francisco is rather a different matter, I probably would have if the dogs hadn't been there.
Betty Tyranny
Jul 22 2008, 5:52 pm
QUOTE (Showem @ Jul 22 2008, 2:05 pm)

The new people who actually give advice and don't just say what they think might happen based on an experience where they didn't contact customs, are equipped.
Leave your chips in the bag, not on your shoulder. My example was to show that Customs and have been helpful and useful in the past to someone who contacted them.
I did check with customs, and according to the rules, pretty much nothing is allowed. All I was saying was that despite what the site says, it may still be possible. Wasn't taking anything away from what you posted, but right away you imply that what I have to say is wrong. Sorry if I misunderstood.
Trust me, I'm as interested as the OP to find out if this is possible. Just don't want them to give up once they look at the Zoll site.
jerryg
Jul 24 2008, 12:08 pm
i wouldn't worry too much about flying into germany. you don't have to fill out a customs declaration to present to an inspector, so if you do actually end up getting checked, i think the worst that would happen is they might throw the food away. but if you want to be on the safe side, i guess check the regulations, it's probably verboten.
kato
Jul 29 2008, 9:09 am
QUOTE (jerryg @ Jul 24 2008, 1:08 pm)

i think the worst that would happen is they might throw the food away.
Food: anything above limits confiscated, destroyed.
Other items: extremely steep import taxes, especially if not declared.
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