another-new-user
Jul 21 2008, 5:33 pm
While in the United States i had been approved to use Cannabis for medical reasons. Does Germany have this type of thing as well? I have been here for 3 months now and am having a hard time finding cannabis. My stomach thing is getting to be pretty unbearable and I need some help.
Owain Glyndwr
Jul 21 2008, 5:44 pm
I would suggest you see a GP here an explain your situation. I am sure he'll be able to enlighten you on the availability of cannabis for medicinal purposes.
Bell the cat
Jul 21 2008, 6:05 pm
as far as I can make out Cannabis cannot be prescribed in Germany. Possession of small amounts is legal but the selling or growing of it is not. The definition of 'small amount' varies throughout Germany too. Speak to your doctor though.
There are actually only a few countries in the world where medicinal canabis is permitted: Cánada, Israel and some states in the USA. In Europe although the legality of cannabis varies from country to country, it is not currently licensed for medicinal puproses.
there is however
a UK-based company developing cannabis-derived medicines. Perhaps you could contact them about being recruited to a trial.
you could always buy in the Czech Republic or Switzerland where use of cannabis is essentially decriminalised (
according to this map)
Allershausen
Jul 21 2008, 6:56 pm
Oh yeah, that sounds like a good idea, smuggle illegal drugs across an international border, great plan!
the Boy From Bozlem
Jul 21 2008, 8:09 pm
Get a
scrog on the go. it aint that hard and with limited space you are laughing. Hey i could help you, i can test it to make sure its 'OK' before you have to try it yourself.
another-new-user
Jul 21 2008, 8:46 pm
hmmm.. iv actually been looking into an AeroGarden herb farm. Youtube "Aerogarden Cannabis". Combining a Scrog and Aerogarden might be a hit. So besides being illegal, what are the particulars of growing in German?
Bell the cat
Jul 21 2008, 8:51 pm
QUOTE (Allershausen @ Jul 21 2008, 6:56 pm)

smuggle illegal drugs across an international border, great plan
both of them will very shortly become Schengen borders with no customs
the Boy From Bozlem
Jul 21 2008, 9:06 pm
AeroGardens what a pisser, i aint seen those before, been out of it for a while but looks interesting lol
Timmeh
Jul 21 2008, 9:08 pm
Ask a certian notorious ganja toting Kiwi ex-TTer about bringing ganja between Schengen states ie the Dam and here...it's an obvious route and the cops prowl it.
Owain Glyndwr
Jul 21 2008, 10:00 pm
QUOTE (Bell the cat @ Jul 21 2008, 9:51 pm)

both of them will very shortly become Schengen borders with no customs
German borders are still classified as "Zollgebiete" within which the Bundespolizei and stop, search and detain anyone, Schengen or no Schengen.
sea-king
Jul 21 2008, 10:03 pm
Actually it's the Zoll that do that! BP are more internal security now, although they have a presence on the borders (Polish one being the favourite just now)
Edit ; Read that a bit wrong, but as I have the best part of a bottle of Frascatti intus, I really have no desire to expand on it!
MonksTown
Jul 21 2008, 10:19 pm
I would certainly advise NOT to bring anything naughty into Bavaria from a neighbouring country or indeed a neighbouring state within Germany.
The police and customs are there en masse on the road and rail networks as well as flights in from Amsterdam.
As there is no official cannabis for medical use, you would have to buy it locally along with those who smoke it for pleasure - or grow your own - if you were to make the baby Jesus kill little kittens by breaking the law in that fashion.
Bell the cat
Jul 21 2008, 10:22 pm
QUOTE (Owain Glyndwr @ Jul 21 2008, 10:00 pm)

German borders are still classified as "Zollgebiete" within which the Bundespolizei and stop, search and detain anyone, Schengen or no Schengen.
I've never been stopped, searched or detained when crossing the border in and out of Germany to France, Austria, Belgium, Luxembourg or the Netherlands. In fact I have never even seen the Zoll checkpoints manned at any of these borders. However, they are at present manned on the Swiss border and the Swiss police board trains at the Swiss border.
MonksTown
Jul 21 2008, 10:33 pm
BtC, I've only been stopped a couple of times and searched once, that was by plain clothes customs officers inside of Germay after having passed the border.
But a journey along the Autobahn between Rosenheim from Munich with your eyes open will reveal plenty just waiting to pounce.
It it is the same near Würzburg as they papers reguarly report the police nicking couriers just after they cross the Weisswurst Equator.
I've heard the same about the A9 route down from Berlin and the easterns states.
The railway network in the east and north of Bavaria is also heavily policed by officers in plain clothes.
As it is, based on my obervatiopn they tend to stop: Darker skinned individuals, foreign plated vehicles, "punks and undesireables" etc etc
Allershausen
Jul 21 2008, 10:33 pm
QUOTE (Bell the cat @ Jul 21 2008, 11:22 pm)

I've never been stopped, searched or detained when crossing the border
Then you've been lucky! I've been chased up the Autobahn by the Bundesgrenzpolizei because I drove into Holland and immediately went back in to Germany. I wanted to fill up with fuel in Germany and missed the last exit before the Dutch border so I turned round and went back, they were very interested in what I had in the car. Which was nothing I must add and they did accept my explanation.
another-new-user
Jul 22 2008, 8:16 am
QUOTE
As it is, based on my observation they tend to stop: Darker skinned individuals, foreign plated vehicles, "punks and undesireables" etc etc
Well that's good i look pretty normal.
Anyways i dont even know where to get it in another state so im still at a loss. A colleague has a friend that said he would send a small amount via post but i said no thanks since this seemed like a really dumb idea.
thanks for everyone's input. im ready to hear more.
this thread has been moved from "
Adult Chat" to "Life in Germany". I guess the moderators think this is a good topic for everyone!
cesar
Jul 22 2008, 9:22 am
QUOTE
you could always buy in the Czech Republic or Switzerland where use of cannabis is essentially decriminalized (according to this map)
really? do they have "coffee" shops like Amsterdam?
lilplatinum
Jul 22 2008, 9:25 am
We bought some from a bartender in prague, if you ask you can usually find something.
cesar
Jul 22 2008, 9:27 am
cool. just don't cross the border with it as this thread suggests right!
MonksTown
Jul 22 2008, 9:37 pm
ANU, I am sure you can find it in Nürnburg, just have to ask around.
Get to know people in pubs innit.
Lavender Rain
Jul 22 2008, 9:44 pm
QUOTE (Bell the cat @ Jul 21 2008, 11:22 pm)

I've never been stopped, searched or detained when crossing the border in and out of Germany to France, Austria, Belgium, Luxembourg or the Netherlands.
In the last two years I've been stopped twice driving back into Germany from the Netherlands and the police said they were looking for drugs. So they are definitely patrolling the border.
MonksTown
Jul 22 2008, 9:53 pm
The massive (plain clothed) police and customs presence in the arrivals hall last time I flew in after a biz trip to Amsterdam weren't looking for a tacky set of wooden clogs and half a kilo of gouda either.
Lavender Rain
Jul 22 2008, 9:57 pm
So you didn't have to pay any taxes on your half kilo of gouda? Cool.
don_riina
Jul 23 2008, 3:01 pm
I believe it may be legal to sell the seeds here, like in many other countries, but not to actually grow them into anything. Which makes no sense really.
Somebody once posted about a headshop near Rosenheimerplatz that sells seeds I think?
Jeanie
Jul 23 2008, 4:26 pm
The head shop in Düsseldorf told me earlier this month that it's illegal to sell seeds in Germany. I was supposed to have gotten some for a friend when I was in Holland but forgot and thought I'd chance my arm there but he said you have to go to Holland or order online and pointed out that it is illegal. I'm sure if you get to know people you might get a different answer but that seems to be the official line anyway.
don_riina
Jul 23 2008, 6:34 pm
really? Oh well, the OP should go for a feminized strain that you can SOG or SCROG grow from an online store then. Easiest way.
toko
Jul 23 2008, 6:50 pm
QUOTE (Bell the cat @ Jul 21 2008, 11:22 pm)

I've never been stopped, searched or detained when crossing the border in and out of Germany to France, Austria, Belgium, Luxembourg or the Netherlands. In fact I have never even seen the Zoll checkpoints manned at any of these borders. However, they are at present manned on the Swiss border and the Swiss police board trains at the Swiss border.
If you live near the dutch border you will know better.
I live in Düsseldorf. Most people here do not cross the border anymore for dope, Schengen or not.
Even though it's totally legal there (a little drive to Venlo or Roermond).
Most people i know who smoke just buy of local dealers who take the
hassle on their shoulders.
The Zoll grabs out tons of people. Most routes are not worth the risk
i'm not smoking weed/pot/dope/cannabis however you call it actually, not since i was 17.
But i know it's just too easy to get quality without the hassle to cross borders.
My parents were recently stopped at the french border for a routine drug search with dogs.
MY PARENTS!!! So not the target group.
MonksTown
Jul 23 2008, 10:44 pm
Toko is spot on. An article in Der Speigel a few years ago put it like this:
A unit of cocaine in Amsterdam (ie AFTER clearing EU customs) costs 1.
The same unit of cocaine in SE Netherlands costs 2.
The same unit of cocaine in NE Germany costs 3.
The Bavarian police are not know for their touchy-feelly tree-hugging qualities.
The higher prices / lower availability that I hear exist in Bavaria compared to elsewhere in Germany is due to the supply chain.
Yes, the OP was talking about cannabis for medicinal purposes but same principle.
another-new-user
Jul 23 2008, 11:55 pm
no cocaine, no cocaine that stuffs not for me. Just wanna cure a tummy ache. I'm reading everything, thanks for all the advice.
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